quantas perdas seus ganhos devido a bônus e wegering

hi,

i just want to know how many peoples are faces the problem with bonus and wegering terms and condition.

as i am observed most of the cases was rised due to kyc verification and bonus related only.

my point is why the casinos rise there terms and conditions queries when player won some money.

why they don't reminde the customer when the customer was occured losses.

when customer losses regularly just out reminder him is your playing way was not acceptable if you won when you follow this strategy we will cancelled your all winning.

but they did't inform us.

if by lucky we win then with jet speed all winnings will cancelled..

if we ask regards this then they will put our account on block.

just revert if any one faces like this

In principle, the bonus is used to give the player the impression that something is good for him.

The truth is however - the bonus is only there to make the one possible withdrawal as difficult as possible.

You pay 50 euros and get 100% bonus play with 100 euros.

Sounds pretty good.

Now comes the hammer that falls on your head.

Problem number 1

now you have to wager the deposit and the bonus 30 times, for example, that means at

50 + 50 * 30 = 3000 euros

that you have to implement.

Problem number 2

Lots of games and that are not a few at some casinos - they are not allowed to be played.

In reputable casinos these players do not even rise - you will also be informed that this game with a bonus is not playable.

But now you are in a casino where you are not informed of this - then if you want to play a certain game you have to check whether this game is allowed to be played.

Now you play a game anyway. And only wager a few euros-whether you win or not, the casino takes the chance to deny you the withdrawal. If you are lucky, but only in the rarest cases, they will give you that money. But the chances are actually zero.

Then if you are lucky, and you have managed to implement everything, also not played the wrong games, and have, for example, 5000 euros on the account, then some casinos still have the point in the conditions

maximum payout for bonus is then 5 times the bonus amount - juhu 250 euros instead of 5000.

Which actually again, if you take it exactly, is actually forbidden.

These unilateral contracts should actually not turn out to be used by only one party. In the case of the casino.

Why do I mean that?

Casino requires you to wager your deposit and bonus, but only grant you a payout of 5 times the bonus.

The same rules should apply here as when making a deposit!

When I deposit:

Deposit + bonus * 30

When I cash out

Deposit + bonus * 30

Then at least I'll be lucky if I really win something for the same amount as I had to implement.

You see bonus fingers away!

I would like to mention one casino where you can possibly talk about bonuses

INTERCASINO

15 times the implementation has to be fulfilled here. And you have the option of withdrawing your winnings at any time, regardless of what you have implemented. the only thing that is taken away is the bonus amount.

I hope the casino guru team can check this at Intercasino and confirm that I am writing something wrong here

Prinzipiell dient der Bonus dafür um den Spieler den eindruck zu erwecken,man tut ihm was gutes.

Die wahrheit ist aber-der bonus dient nur dazu,um dir die eine mögliche auszahlung so schwer wie möglich zu machen.

Sie zahlen 50 euro ein-bekommen 100% bonus-spielen also mit 100 euro.

Klingt ja ganz gut.

Jetzt kommt der Hammer der dir auf den kopf fallt.

Problem nummer 1

jetzt musst du zum beispiel die einzahlung und den Bonus 30 mal umsetzen,dass heisst bei

50+50*30=3000 euro

die du umsetzen musst.

Problem nummer 2

Viele spiele und dass sind bei einigen Casinos nicht wenig-dürfen nicht gespielt werden.

Bei seriösen casino-gehen diese Spieler gar nicht auf-da wird dir auch mitgeteilt,das dieses Spiel mit bonus nicht spielbar ist.

Jetzt bist du aber in einem casino wo dir das nicht mitgeteilt wird-dann musst du wenn du ein bestimmtes spiel spielen willst-nachschauen ob dieses Spiel gespielt werden darf.

Jetzt spielst du trotzdem ein spiel.und setzt nur paar euros-egal ob du gewinnst oder nicht,das Casino nutzt die chance,umd dir die auszahlung zu verweigern.Wenn du glück hast,,aber nur in den seltensten fällen,geben sie dir das geld. Aber die chancen stehen eigentlich gleich 0.

Dann wenn du Glück hast,und du hast es geschafft alles umzusetzen,auch keine falschen spiele gespielt ,und hast beispiel 5000 euro am konto,dann haben einige casino noch den Punkt in den bedingungen

maximale auszahlung bei Bonus-steht dann 5mal den bonusbetrag.-juhu 250 euro-statt 5000.

Was ja eigentlich schon wieder ,wenn man es genau nimmt eigentlich verboten ist.

Diese einseitigen Verträge dürften eigentlich nicht so ausfallen,das sie nur einer Partei nutzen. In dem fall dem casino.

Warum ich das so meine?

Casino verlangt von ihnen das sie Einzahlung und Bonus umsetzen müssen,gewähren Ihnen aber nur die auszahlung von 5 mal dem Bonus.

Hier sollte es eigentlich genauso die Regeln gelten wie bei der einzahlung!

Wenn ich einzahle:

EInzahlung + bonus * 30

Wenn ich auszahle

Einzahlung+bonus* 30

Dann komme ich zumindest mit glück wenn ich wirklich was gewinne auf die selbe summe wie ich umsetzen musste.

Sie sehen Bonus-Finger weg!

Wobei ein casino möchte ich erwähnen ,wo man eventuell über Bonus reden kann

INTERCASINO

Hier sind 15fache umsetzung zu erfüllen. Und sie haben die möglichkeit-jederzeit ihren gewinn abzuheben,egal was sie umgesetzt haben. das einzige was weggenommen wird ist der Bonus betrag.

Ich hoffe das Casino guru team kann das mal nachprüfen bei Intercasino und das bestätigen-net das ich hier was falsches schreibe

You explained it very well, I have nothing to add 👍

Maybe just the fact that bonuses and breaches in bonus terms and conditions are the most common reason why players submit complaints on our website.

It's actually sad that something like this is even allowed. I am clearly in favor of casinos not being allowed to offer bonuses.

If, let's say, you give someone 20 euros for free-then you should not have to convert more than this amount - which is what many real casinos do - so no online casinos

Es ist eigentlich traurig ,dass so etwas überhaupt zulässig ist. Bin eindeutig dafür das casinos keine Boni anbieten dürfen.

Wenn sie sagen wir mal jemanden durch 20 euro spielguthaben schenken-dann sollte er maximal diese summe auch umgesetzt werden müssen-was ja auch viele richtige casinos machen-also keine onlinecasinos

There's a simple issue with bonuses. Bonuses are a marketing tool to attract players, but on the other hand, casinos don't really want to pay much for using that tool. That's why the bonus terms and conditions are so complicated 😕

Hi Daniel,

I aggree bonus is marketing tool..

If any casino will offer bonus to players for attracting.

If we offered bonus then need to maintain some ethics and standard and fair rules.

Some casino's will follow s ethical and fair rules..

Casino offered bonuses for there business development but they covered as a player benefit...

Almost 75/100 complaints rises because of bonuses..

Maintain single rule for bonus on all casino's it's better for players will understand..

Every casino has write there own comportable rules.

Example:

The best casino will wegerd 35x on bonus only with 15days time period it's fair.

Same the unethical (intention player not to win) casino will wegerd 45x on (deposit+bonus) with in period it's unfair for complete the wagering need to play 5000/- game rounds per day.

In this just my opinion need to maintain one single rupee for this bonuses at all casino's and that must be in the supervision of regulatory then its better for players safety..

That's the problem. Casino have different regulator, different licensing authorities, others don't have licenses at all. Then they have different rules for bonuses. Not just the wagering requirement, but sometimes the amount wagered on table games like roulette or blackjack isn't included into the wagering at all, sometimes it's 10 %. You usually need to wager the bonus on slots, but sometimes, some slots are excluded from it according to the terms and conditions, some slots contribute only partly (70 %) etc. In most of casino, you have a max. bet applied while playing with bonuses, but the max. amount you can bet differs as well. Then even if you bet the max. allowed bet, some slots and their features actually force you to break the rule - for example you win 6.5USD and the game asks you if you want to double it or win nothing. When you try to double it, you basically bet 6.5USD, but if the max. bet rule is 5USD, you already broke the max. bet rule etc.

It's complicated. My only recommendation is: read the terms and conditions, take only bonuses that you think are good for you, don't accept every bonus they offer to you.