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I created an account at betonred on March 23rd. I have been playing throughout this week (in which I have made several withdrawals without any problem, but I have ended up losing much more). After investigating their terms and conditions when trying to open an account at a casino (with the same address and part of the same group) I realized that citizens of Spain are totally prohibited from playing at this casino • but despite them knowing it, they continued to let me bet and bet, I sent my national document, verified my account and did not use any different VPN, so they knew perfectly well which country I belonged to and where I was playing from. I am posting this review because I am going to demand a refund of my losses through other means. I am going to contact the General Directorate of Gambling in my country and a lawyer to be able to demand the money back. I have posted this same review here and on trustpilot and I will continue to post it in more places in order to find a solution.

They take advantage of those of us who have gambling problems, and despite the fact that they shouldn't allow players from certain countries to play, with very strict policies, they do.

I have proof of everything, bank statements, screenshots of their website and how it lets me access with my VPN from Spain, their terms and conditions, and other casinos that work under the same company and license, some of which don't let me register because I'm from Spain, but what a coincidence that this one did let me and now it doesn't.

"There are even casinos that operate under the same company as Betonred, where I registered years ago. They blocked my accounts due to gambling problems. They have all my personal information, yet they still let me open an account at this casino under the same name."

Caution for people from countries in Europe or the US: these casinos cannot operate there, and if they do, they are committing an infraction and may suffer the consequences by paying fines. They also cannot receive money from accounts in countries like Spain or the US, and many others, nor can they make withdrawals, which they have done.

If you need any proof, feel free to ask. You can see their policies and terms and how they don't comply with them. Other casinos don't allow entry from Spain, but this one does, and even though they know you're from a prohibited country, they don't care as long as they can make money.

I ask that the casinoguru please mediate in this and find a solution and a refund of the lost money.

I have currently requested that my account be blocked due to gambling issues and have emailed them demanding a refund for my losses due to violating their own policies.

Me cree una cuenta en betonred el dia 23 de marzo, he estado a lo largo de esta semana jugando (en la cual he hecho varios retiros sin problema, pero he acabado perdiendo mucho mas ) Tras investigar sus términos y condiciones al intentar abrir una cuenta en un casino (con la misma dirección y que forma parte del mismo grupo ) me he dado cuenta de que los ciudadanos de España estamos totalmente prohibidos jugar en este casino • pero pese a ellos saberlo , me siguieron dejando apostar y apostar , envie mi documento nacional, verifique mi cuenta y no use ninguna vpn diferente, por lo que sabían perfectamente a que país pertenecía y desde donde jugaba. Pongo esta reseña por que les voy a exigir por otras vías la devolución de las pérdidas, voy a contactar con la dirección General del juego de mi pais y con un abogado para poder exigirles el dinero, he puesto esta misma reseña aqui y en trustpilot y seguire en mas partes con tal de conseguir una solución.

Se aprovechan de los que tenemos problemas con el juego y pese a que no deberían dejar jugar a jugadores de ciertos paises con unas políticas muy estrictas, lo hacen.

Tengo pruebas de todo , extractos bancarios, caputas de su página y como me deja acceder con mi vpn de España, de sus términos y condiciones, y de otros casinos que trabajan bajo la misma empresa y licencia los cuales algunos no me dejan registrame por ser de España, pero que casualidad que este si me dejo y ahora ya no

"Incluso hay casinos que trabajan bajo la misma empresa que betonred que me registre hace años ,y bloque las cuenta por problemas con el juego y tienen toda mi información personal y aun asi me dejaron abrir cuenta en este casino con el mismo nombre"

Cuidado para la gente que de paies de europa o eeuu , estos casinos no pueden trabajar ahi y si lo hacen están cometiendo una infracción, y pueden sufrir las consecuencias con pagos de multas, tampoco pueden recibir dinero de cuentas de paises como España o eeuu y muchos otros , ni hacer reintegros cosa que han hecho.

Si necesitáis alguna prueba me la pedis sin probelma , podéis ver sus políticas y términos y como no los cumplen , otros casinos no dejan entrar desde España pero este si y aun cuando saben que eres de un país prohibido les da igual con tal de ganar dinero .

Pido porfavor que el casinoguru medie en esto y consiga una solución y un reintegro del dinero perdido .

Actualmente he dicho que me bloquen la cuenta por problemas del juego y les he mandado un correo exigiéndoles la devolución de las pérdidas por infirgir sus propias políticas.

Dear Alpoddo1199,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely.

Could you please advise if you have requested a self-exclusion from BetOnRed Casino directly?

Did you study the terms and conditions before creating your account, and despite finding out that Spain is a restricted country, you went ahead and opened the account anyway?

Also, are you sure you didn’t use a VPN? When creating an account from Spain, there’s usually a pop-up warning that the country is restricted.

Could you please share your communication with the casino? Send emails or chat transcripts to my email at dominika.l@casino.guru, or post screenshots here.

Thank you very much in advance for your reply.

Best regards,

Dominika

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Hello, thank you for responding so quickly. I requested self-exclusion two days ago.

I didn't read the terms and conditions, in fact I asked via chat, as I always do, if they accept players from Spain, and they told me yes (I don't have a screenshot of that).

I didn't use any VPN between my mobile data and home WiFi. I'll even upload photos so you can see that you can access their website without any problem and register again or chat.

I verified my account with my ID, and they knew I was a player from Spain, but they still let me continue betting.

Hola gracias por contestar tan rápido, si pedí la autoexclusion yo hace 2 días.

No leí los términos y condiciones es mas pregunte por el chat por que siempre lo hago si aceptan jugadores de España y me dijeron que si ( no tengo captura de eso)

No use ninguna vpn entre con datos móviles y WiFi de mi casa , es mas ahora colgaré fotos para que vean que puedes acceder a su página sin problema y volverte a registrar o hablar por el chat

Verifique mi cuenta con mi documento de identidad , y ellos tenían conocimiento de que era un jugador de España aun asi me dejaron seguir apostar .

I created an account with another user and email so you can see that it lets me in without any problem, I can talk via chat without any problem, and deposit and play (I haven't done this with this account, just so you can check the veracity of my words)

On the other hand, they even have a page ending in "es. De España" (from Spain), which I've attached in a photo. It's inaccessible from there, and it redirects you directly to the others, like a gateway for people from restricted countries to access. I learned all this by researching how these casinos operate, and about all the casinos behind the same brand.

If you need anything else, such as refunds to my account or bank statements, I can send them to you.

I request reimbursement of my losses. They have earned enough from me illegally, and clearly if they do not do so, I will contact the authorities and the license issued by Curacao to report them.

Me creado una cuenta con otro usuario y email para que vean que me deja sin problema, puedo hablar por el chat sin problema , y depositar y jugar ( no lo he hecho con esta cuenta, solo era para que comprobariais la veracidad de mis palabras)

Por otra parte tienen hasta una página con la terminación es. De España que adjunto en una foto que desde esa no se puede acceder y te redirige a las otras directamente , como una puerta para que gente de paises restringidos pueda acceder , todo esto lo he sabido al informarme de como actúan estos casinos , y de todos los casinos que hay detrás de la misma marca .

Si necesitan algo mas , como reintegros en mi cuenta o extractos de mi banco se les puedo mandar .

Pido el reintegro de mis perdidas , han ganado suficiente conmigo de forma ilegal , y claramente si no lo hacen contactare con las autoridades y con la licencia expedida por curazao para informar.

Dear Alpoddo1199, would you be so kind as to forward me the account closure requests that you sent to the casino? My email address is dominika.l@casino.guru.

Hello, the self-exclusion was done through chat with them. Currently, the account is self-excluded. I am communicating with them via email and it seems that they are taking things seriously. They have offered me a refund of 2,000 thousand euros, which I did not accept since my losses triple that amount.

And they have replied to me again saying that they have escalated the problem to a higher department and will contact me within a week.

I am passing on to you this information that I am talking about.

I look forward to your responses, thank you.

Hola la autoexclusion se hice a través de chat con ellos, actualmete la cuenta es autoexcluida me estoy comunicando con ellos a través de email y parece que se están tomando las cosas en serio , me han ofrecido un rembolso de 2000 mil euros que no aceptado ya que mis pérdidas triplican esa cantidad .

Y me han vuelto a contestar diciendo que han escalado el problema a un departamento superior y me contactaran en una semana .

Le paso esta información de la que hablo .

Espero sus respuestas, gracias .

Dear Alpoddo1199,

Thank you for all the information you’ve shared so far.

After reviewing your case, I would like to clarify a few important points:

• Nowhere on the casino’s website is it stated that being previously excluded from other casinos owned by the same operator automatically results in exclusion from this one. Each platform handles account status individually, even if they share the same license or owner.
• Since your BetOnRed account has already been self-excluded, there’s no need for us to assist further with the self-exclusion process.
• In situations where a player is allowed to open an account from a restricted country, our role as a mediator is limited to helping players receive their rightful winnings. Since your case relates to lost deposits, not withheld winnings, this falls outside our scope.

Regrettably, at Casino.Guru, we do not handle complaints related to licensing regulations and policies. While we understand your perspective, unfortunately, we are not in a position to provide assistance in this matter. Our role is that of an independent online casino database that acts as a mediator in resolving player disputes. However, we lack the authority to enforce the legality of rules.

If your aim is to seek a refund of lost deposits solely on the grounds that the casino lacks a valid license or accepts players from restricted regions, we are unable to assist. On each casino review, we clearly provide information about its license and background, but ultimately it is each player’s responsibility to decide where they choose to play.

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Unfortunately, based on the information received thus far, we will not proceed further with this case.

Due to the aforementioned reasons, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.

Best regards,

Dominika