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Os provedores são protegidos pelas diretrizes Visa/MasterCard, parece que as diretrizes VISA/MasterCard estão acima da lei. Como consumidor, você está ferrado, os provedores podem lavar dinheiro quase sem problemas.

Na Alemanha, os pagamentos com cartão de crédito são particularmente protegidos. As transações autorizadas só são substituídas sob certas condições. Os bancos raramente reembolsam uma transação tão segura porque o banco é responsável se o oponente ganhar o estorno. Portanto, normalmente os recursos não são creditados ou aguarda-se o resultado do estorno.

Se uma transação não for protegida pelo 3DS, o comerciante é responsável. Quando leio que alguém autorizou mais de 40 transações, fica claro por que os bancos não reagem. Verificar e reclamar de 40 transações no sistema MasterCard é complexo e demorado.


Os bancos acreditam que o pagamento está autorizado; além disso, a pessoa recebeu algo em troca, mesmo que o cartão mostre o contrário. Não há comprovação na forma de faturas, portanto é impossível iniciar um estorno. A partir deste ponto, todos devem entender do que se trata.



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Mas com que base você quer dizer que receberia o dinheiro de volta? O casino não pode saber que você é viciado em jogos de azar, se você não tiver contado a eles. Portanto, a pergunta seguinte também é: por que você tentou denunciá-los à polícia? E, finalmente - com que fundamento você solicitou um estorno ao banco/que motivo você deu?

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It's not about whether you have been addicted to gambling or not. It is a technicality in essence - the merchant is deliberately obscuring a transaction type to be retail when in fact it is a very high risk gambling transaction. This is a direct contravention of the rules set by Mastercard/Visa. It is also grounds for a player to say the merchant is not recognised and ask for a refund.

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It is also grounds for a player to say the merchant is not recognised and ask for a refund.


However, the transaction was usually verified by the banking app, so the banks take this as recognition of the transaction. If you play at 123 Casino and see something else on the app when confirming, you would have to decline.



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It is also grounds for a player to say the merchant is not recognised and ask for a refund.


However, the transaction was usually verified by the banking app, so the banks take this as recognition of the transaction. If you play at 123 Casino and see something else on the app when confirming, you would have to decline.



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Doesn't really matter tbh. If you can show you did not receive anything from the merchant then that's pretty much good enough. Getting banks to understand what is happening is the toughest part.

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Glamors12
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Have 2 pending with Musicreverb...will let you know how it goes

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Received this email when questioning goldenbet. Is this lies?


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It's not lies. The third party payment processor is the one that needs to be taken to task. The casino won't give you any refund. You need to see what the amounts have come off as on your statements and find the 'merchant' if they exist, then you can build a case with your bank.

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I have found the merchant on company house which is a photocopy company based in London?


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2scottjason
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Try and make contact with them mate. I can almost guarantee they won't have a clue, but you can then use that as evidence.

Anonymized847
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Unfortunately I've looked into and the company exists on paper but has no contact details. I have raised a chargeback with my bank on hope, the company it takes you to on company house is a photocopy company b6 description but with no contact detaila

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Unfortunately I've looked into and the company exists on paper but has no contact details. I have raised a chargeback with my bank on hope, the company it takes you to on company house is a photocopy company b6 description but with no contact detaila

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Good luck mate, hoping it works. They will see it is clearly not coded as gambling.

Anonymized847
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Thanks very much, yeah I've sent the what evidence I have of the transactions with photos of the company number etc. to me it looks like a fake company was set up for this specific purpose, not sure if I'm overthinking though haha

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Similar to cards, open banking transactions such as Trustly needs and should be processed with specific code, I think for open banking it was PCC 26 or something.

But, as with cards, there is of course ways to bypass this as many casinos will do.



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Latest ones I have found are PayOp and PayDo...used by Santeda Group for all sorts of deposits from cards to neosurf vouchers! Will contact both payment providers and see what happens.

Anonymized840
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I'm on them at the moment and a few weird emails have been received for payment cancellations so will wait and see their final responses.

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Just that there was potential payment fraud and they said they would investigate. Now have several automated emails through...but need to wait and see

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