Minha preocupação com o Pragmatic Play (página 10)

Also, I ask Radka to officially answer whether there is at least ONE client in the world who won Max Win in such games as: Sweet Bonanza, Sweet Bonanza Xmas, The Dog House, The Dog House Megaways???

Також Радка прошу офіційно відповісти чи є хоча б ОДИН клієнт в світі який виграв Max Win в таких іграх як: Sweet Bonanza, Sweet Bonanza Xmas, The Dog House, The Dog House Megaways???

Hello, with all due respect, how should I know that? It would be better to ask the game provider. I have no official information sources about this topic, we do not assemble winning charts, and we are not even the casino. There is no way for me to know.

I would use Google 😀

Greetings to you!

The thing is that none of you ever tried to provide proof. I perfectly understand you feel like your truth is obvious, but it's not that simple. We at Casino Guru believe that honest casinos show each game RTP, so you have an idea beforehand. Even if the game provider allows casinos to use different RTPs, the player should always have the chance to find out.

What you describe with the scatters is a completely different question, and as I explained, nowadays almost every slot game possesses its own mechanism and special triggers, hence if want to prove the game is not acting correctly, you would need to reverse engineer it. We lack the tools to do that.

Thus, we are both in the same situation, unless someone finds a way to deconstruct each and single game. It simply works on a licensing basis. Licensed casino, gets games from licensed game providers, their certificate ensures games are fair. There is no more to that.

In my opinion, this lack of certainty creates such conversations, and it makes sense to me. I'm able to empathize with your point of you, I'm just saying there is no way to find out.

If you don't believe in this system, I fear there is nothing you can do about that.

there is no max win in the listed games! Are you saying that none of us can provide evidence? I can, I have about 250,000 thousand screenshots, are you ready to receive and process them???

немає жодного max win виграшу у перечислених іграх! Ти пишеш що жоден з нас не може надати докази? Я можу, у мене порядку 250 000 тисяч скриншотів, ти готова їх отримати та опрацювати???

oh,...We have heard this so many times before, screenshots are just untraceable pictures. Do you have the official gaming history? The full scale? That would be at least an official source. Still, analyzing it would paralyze our data team for ages, based on its length. So, we do not engage in this. We are not the official authority equipped with the proper tools; the same for you.

Besides, can you reverse-engineer the slot? I bet you can't, and that's it. How many times do you need me to write it down again? No one can determine the game's full RTP besides its creator, the very same issue is with analyzing gaming history, we don't have the tools.

You used to be listed here as a representative of Pragmatic Play, isn't that right?

Ви ж раніше тут були позначені як представник Pragmatic Play, це вже не так?

No, I have never been. I'd say, you are talking about Jelena 👈.

I'm Radka, Social Media & Community Specialist, Casino Guru team Member, nice to e-meet you.

Radka, stop babbling. I've had at least 2000 free spins on 2, 3 and 5 euros on Big Bass Christmas. All at different casinos. The highest win was 1700 euros, the second 11 hundred. 80 percent of the other winnings are a maximum of 50 euros. It goes without saying that Pragmatic Play is a huge scam. It's true that none of us can do anything about it, but what you're saying about it being licensed etc. is rubbish to the tenth degree. Casinos like cashwin.com etc. don't even have a license in Germany, which could also mean that no one is actually checking whether the whole thing is legal. Today I played around 500 spins on Christmas with a stake of 2 euros. Not a single free spin. That means a 0 in 500 chance for me. The fact that we're not showing you any evidence doesn't mean that we're lying. I'll just say again that Pragmatic Play is a monster scam and, very importantly, there's a lot going on against them in the background on Telegram. All I can say is that there are already around 30,000 players who will be suing with lawyers. And they are all working together as one unit.

Radka hör doch mal auf zu labern. Ich habe mindestens 2000 mal Freispiele auf 2,3 und 5 Euro auf Big Bass Christmas gehabt. Das ga ze bei verschiedenen Casinos. Höchstgewinn war 1700 Euro, der zweite 11 Hundert. 80 Prozent von dem anderen Gewinne liegen bei max 50 Euro. Ist doch selbstverständlich dass Pragmatic Play ein riesen Betrug ist. Dass keiner von uns was gegen kann ist richtig aber was du erzählst von wegen lizenziert usw ist Müll hoch zehn. Casinos wie cashwin.com usw haben nicht mal eine Lizenz in Deutschland, dass kann auch bedeuten dass kein Mensch tatsächlich überprüft ob das ganze legal läuft. Heute habe ich ca 500 Drehungen auf 2 Euro Einsatz auf Christmas gespielt. Kein einziges Mal ein Freispiel. Das bedeutet eine Chance von 0 zu 500 für mich. Dass wir dir keine Beweise vorlegen bedeutet auch nicht dass wir lügen. Ich sag nur noch einmal Pragmatic Play ist ein Monsterbetrug und ganz wichtig es läuft im Hintergrund auf Telegram schon vieles gegen die. Kann nur sagen es sind schon ca 30000 Spieler die mit Anwälten gegen klagen werden. Und das zusammen als eine Einheit.

Nolimit city is a scam too

Five bonus buys and all loss

There is a precedent where a player from Germany returned through the court all the funds spent on a casino that did not have a license to provide services in Germany, I advise you to search for information on the Internet, I am also currently doing this, I am preparing to return all the lost funds through the court.

Є прецендент де гравець з Германії повернув через суд всі кошти витрачені на казино у якого не було ліцензії на надання послуг в Германії, раджу вам пошукати в інтернеті інформацію, я також зараз цим займаюсь, готуюсь через суд повертати всі втрачені кошти.

I do not really understand why you get so rude here, but whatever.🤷‍♀️ Radka always tries to explain and help all the players in need, so if you do not agree with her or any of us, it is your opinion alone. If you feel in need of our help, do not hesitate to contact us.

Unfortunately, it is really bad that your luck was not by your side there.

Hello Dear user.

I'm more than convinced you also believe this is all just one big setup. Still, expressing how things work from our point of view is not babbling. Smart people can make their own decisions based on this "variety" of the subject. We care to explain, providing the space for questions.

If anyone needs to express his truth over the others, it is a mark showing how gambling is unhealthy, especially losing on slots (which are the worst choice when it comes to the house edge).

Let's just keep it decent.

If you would rather think that everyone in the industry is against players, perhaps it is time to move on.

I'm not saying you didn't make an interesting point, but it does not change the outcome, in my opinion.

I'm definitely not interested in arguing. Can you say the same, I wonder.

If I may have a question, do you also consider returning all your winnings to such casinos? I mean, you have your excitement, it seems, but now you want to use the court to get back lost money. What about the winnings?

Radka did you finally block giannis400?

Yes, unfortunately the player got warnings and there were several of them and if he can't behave and be objective, so we had to take this step. 

I agree that in the last 5 years the slots we have been playing have changed their behavior, I also agree that from casino to casino I have noticed different behavior in the same slots, what I wrote was agreed by giannis400 and the others here.

I don't take anyone's opinion away, I just sometimes don't understand why someone who has the same view still plays those slots. If you are convinced that they behave differently everywhere and you can't win isn't it best to quit gambling ? Anyone can express their opinion but of course politely and objectively. 🙂

I've been playing PLAYSON's coin strike for a long time, today with 500 spins of 1 euro, I opened the bonus because I had accumulated a lot of coins for those who know, I was rewarded with a bonus of 34 euros LOL, also in the 500 spins, I didn't get into the bonus even once, it always stopped when went to fix the 3rd scatter, I complained to customer service and it threw me the familiar automated message that refers to luck and the control by the competent authorities for fair rng, this game had nothing to do with what I've been playing for years, that's why those who agree on the suspicious behavior of spinning slots from casino to casino. Whenever I have tried to imitate some streamers who change PRAGMATIC PLAY games I have regretted it, I always lose all my money, countless times I have changed 5-6 games losing all the money from the 1st game I played winning, I have never played consecutive games in pragmatic play so I can win. Tip... if you win in a PRAGMATIC play game, don't try to play another one in pragmatic play.

I have a lot to say about pragmatic and the way they do the dirty for the players .. first of all I want to tell you don’t bet with pragmatic you will be skin of your money all day long with only a few chances by day .. this provider is by far the worst I’ve seen in my entire life .. limit scam they are very bad .. I give you some exemple .. we will take candy land bonanza .. when you play this game and they give you a bonus game who worth more than x50 90% of time they take it back in the next 20 spins to be sure you will not go with any nice wins .. I’ve seen multiples issues with them .. these people who host this game release their spins always around the same zone for a lot of spins they are a big part of the Roberry they can do the exact same spins for all the session .. I noticed that sometimes the game is paused for like 2-3 mins and when they do this Little pause the game turn into a very bad game for a long time .. I can guarantee you after playing this for months something is wrong with this game and they probably fix the game manually .. they take you a lot of spins with bad numbers and come back with some very poor bonus game income like x5 x10 x7 but take 30 spins for this .. I barely see some very big wins in the last 6 month playing this game not only that but they also laugh at your face even if they know that everyone is losing money .. they always talk about the energy and being nice in the live chat of the game and I can assure you every single time when people get mad in this live chat the game get even worst .. what’s the chance for this ? I mean this suppose to be a fair game but it look like someone is controlling this game from behind i can guarantee if someone put his feet’s in this casino to see what’s happen this place will be closed for goods .. now let’s talk about these slots machine .. pragmatic provider is the only one provider who you need 4 symbol to get a bonus game we all know how it’s difficult to get them even with 3 symbols .. but not only that .. all these pragmatic slots I tried them for 6 month straight and barely see some big wins that keep you in the game 90% of time when you make a deposit and playing these slots the money is gone and you can’t never reach the amount of your deposit again to play with its literally money down the drain every single day of the week something is very wrong with this provider and I don’t think this place should be referencial for players this provider should be banned in my country they steal your money with a very low % chances of winning every swingle day is the same with them not a single day is different .. be careful when you play your money with these kind of provider this one is clearly black listed for me and I will try to see if I can start a collectif case vs them to see if we can see more about this pragmatic casino place .. I will do everything possible to see if we can finally know the truth about this place this is not normal and the smelling scam every time I hit these games