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Qualquer jogador consistente seria bem-vindo para falar sobre sua experiência, habilidades, lucratividade, etc.
Alguém é capaz de viver da roleta?
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I would say this is an image bolstered by certain kinds of movies 🙂
Have you ever heard you can't beat properly working roulette in the long run?
If you want to be well informed on the subject of this popular game, I suggest you read this whole guide article focused on roulette:
https://es.casino.guru/ruleta-reglas-probabilidad-apuestas
It is a game of luck and should be played for fun and excitement, not for steady income...
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Capable of living means in the long term, I'd say.
Have you heard this, perhaps?
"I am not saying they will help you turn roulette into a cash machine. That’s not possible, because the casino always has a statistical advantage over you when playing roulette. You statistically lose money with every bet you make, which is why any attempt to systematically win on roulette is not possible"
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"640K ought to be enough for anybody" — a legendary phrase attributed to Bill Gates, the founder of Microsoft, in 1981, during the times of creating the first IBM PC and MS DOS 1.0.
It's truly intriguing how people repeatedly quote certain axioms without attempting to shift them into a slightly different context or change the perspective. I'm not disputing the quote you've provided, no. I'm just affirming that it's valid and applicable for the time it originated and the conditions in which you place yourself in the exact context it was born, namely: sitting at a casino table with a set of chips in your hand, thinking about how to outsmart the casino. And in that scenario, you're absolutely right because this quote emerged precisely in such circumstances.
The author of the quote didn't have the ability to simultaneously access information from multiple tables, wait for favorable moments at any of them, and, after winning, observe a multitude of tables again. However, for that context, the quote you've provided operates differently. It roughly translates to: "With favorable waiting, you can outplay the casino at one of the gaming tables over a short distance, winning one or multiple gaming sessions and then discontinuing play at that specific table."
Such is the contemporary reality and context. All that remains for you to do with this is to circulate this assertion across a significant number of gaming tables in online casinos.
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Boa tarde,
Radka, devo dizer que discordo de seus argumentos,
Existem jogadores que, mesmo jogando 50/50 na roleta "sem comissão de cassino", ainda assim seriam perdedores, tenho certeza. Vejo todos os dias como os jogadores jogam grandes quantias cobrindo grande parte do pano, fazendo progressões e perdendo tudo. Em algum momento eles ganhariam, mas as pessoas em geral não estão satisfeitas em obter uma porcentagem razoável, digamos, um retorno de 20%.
Eu particularmente me considero, pelo menos, não um perdedor, devo dizer que quando acerto uma porcentagem alvo saio do jogo, isso é o que diferencia um perdedor de um vencedor, a ganância.
Não estou preocupado que a roleta européia tenha uma desvantagem de 2,7%, se você for disciplinado, isso não será um problema para obter lucros a longo prazo, eu verifiquei.
É preciso dizer que não sou um jogador de lazer, esse é outro perfil ao qual não pertenço.
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Discordo.
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You'd have to show incredibly solid proofs when you state that "you can outplay the casino".
That's basically what casinos want people to believe when in the end it's obviously not the case. Just like when they display the "HOT Jackpot" on progressive jackpot slots. As if there was higher possibilities for it to be won because the amount has grown bigger.
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You took the phrase out of context, completely altering its meaning. The essence of my statement was that winning is possible and achievable under certain conditions and within a short distance. However, you turned it into some kind of casino promotional slogan, which is absolutely incorrect and was not implied.
Let's consider a specific example.
Suppose you have access to certain "knowledge" that black numbers might not appear in roulette for more than 20-24 times in a row. And suddenly, you see that at the moment, black hasn't appeared for 20 times in a row on the roulette table. I assume that with this "knowledge," as mentioned earlier, you would place a bet. If it doesn't win, you would increase the bet within your chosen progression to win on the next spin. Either way, if your initial bet doesn't win immediately, you'd increase it for a limited number of sessions since you're using your awareness to enter the game at the right moment and exit after a win. So, on this specific table and during this specific period, you're in a winning situation compared to the casino, right?
The key is to replicate this approach across numerous tables and gaming situations that allow you to win within a short distance and then leave the game.
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"640K ought to be enough for anybody" — a legendary phrase attributed to Bill Gates, the founder of Microsoft, in 1981, during the times of creating the first IBM PC and MS DOS 1.0.
It's truly intriguing how people repeatedly quote certain axioms without attempting to shift them into a slightly different context or change the perspective. I'm not disputing the quote you've provided, no. I'm just affirming that it's valid and applicable for the time it originated and the conditions in which you place yourself in the exact context it was born, namely: sitting at a casino table with a set of chips in your hand, thinking about how to outsmart the casino. And in that scenario, you're absolutely right because this quote emerged precisely in such circumstances.
The author of the quote didn't have the ability to simultaneously access information from multiple tables, wait for favorable moments at any of them, and, after winning, observe a multitude of tables again. However, for that context, the quote you've provided operates differently. It roughly translates to: "With favorable waiting, you can outplay the casino at one of the gaming tables over a short distance, winning one or multiple gaming sessions and then discontinuing play at that specific table."
Such is the contemporary reality and context. All that remains for you to do with this is to circulate this assertion across a significant number of gaming tables in online casinos.
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We aim to provide the community with proven facts - this is one of those. Keeping players informed means keeping them safe. This is our ultimate goal.
To me, you sound like you're promoting.
Speaking of which, may I remind you I deleted the link you posted on the subject leading to the advert?
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Boa tarde,
Radka, devo dizer que discordo de seus argumentos,
Existem jogadores que, mesmo jogando 50/50 na roleta "sem comissão de cassino", ainda assim seriam perdedores, tenho certeza. Vejo todos os dias como os jogadores jogam grandes quantias cobrindo grande parte do pano, fazendo progressões e perdendo tudo. Em algum momento eles ganhariam, mas as pessoas em geral não estão satisfeitas em obter uma porcentagem razoável, digamos, um retorno de 20%.
Eu particularmente me considero, pelo menos, não um perdedor, devo dizer que quando acerto uma porcentagem alvo saio do jogo, isso é o que diferencia um perdedor de um vencedor, a ganância.
Não estou preocupado que a roleta européia tenha uma desvantagem de 2,7%, se você for disciplinado, isso não será um problema para obter lucros a longo prazo, eu verifiquei.
É preciso dizer que não sou um jogador de lazer, esse é outro perfil ao qual não pertenço.
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My point is no one can guarantee you winnings in the long term. Thus the idea of being capable of constantly financing your living (this is another topic the user I replied to was addressing earlier) is quite dangerous without a proper explanation.
I thank you for your point of view, however. It just refers to a different view, I'd say.
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You took the phrase out of context, completely altering its meaning. The essence of my statement was that winning is possible and achievable under certain conditions and within a short distance. However, you turned it into some kind of casino promotional slogan, which is absolutely incorrect and was not implied.
Let's consider a specific example.
Suppose you have access to certain "knowledge" that black numbers might not appear in roulette for more than 20-24 times in a row. And suddenly, you see that at the moment, black hasn't appeared for 20 times in a row on the roulette table. I assume that with this "knowledge," as mentioned earlier, you would place a bet. If it doesn't win, you would increase the bet within your chosen progression to win on the next spin. Either way, if your initial bet doesn't win immediately, you'd increase it for a limited number of sessions since you're using your awareness to enter the game at the right moment and exit after a win. So, on this specific table and during this specific period, you're in a winning situation compared to the casino, right?
The key is to replicate this approach across numerous tables and gaming situations that allow you to win within a short distance and then leave the game.
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"Suppose you have access to certain "knowledge" that black numbers might not appear in roulette for more than 20-24 times in a row."
"The key is to replicate this approach across numerous tables and gaming situations that allow you to win within a short distance and then leave the game."
Again, I have to say this would most likely be considered as acting against the casino rules.
Can you specify the exact application for such behavior, please? I'm missing the part considering the knowledge. I suspect some app running in the background, am I close? I would like to understand how it should work in reality.
Please give us a complete example. 🙏
Pointing out that I'm commenting solely on the online version, so this "short distance" confuses me a bit.
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Radka, I've come a long way on this journey, really.
I know of at least three services that allow users to receive information about roulette numbers that haven't appeared for a while. But before finding them or before they existed, I paid programmers myself, whom I found in various communities, to do what I needed to try to find the key to success. They collected and provided various data for me, calculating and grouping them as I requested. They created various scripts and bots for me to integrate into my browser, which would calculate data right in front of my eyes.
Look at the screenshots I've found, some of them dated back to 2020 during the pandemic when everyone was staying at home. I spent nights studying these lines of numbers in different colors, trying to find an answer to my question: "When is it safe to enter the game to win and leave with a profit?" I attempted to automate what Zoran (zorans71) did, paying programmers out of my own pocket.
In the summer of 2020, in August, I discovered a service that calculates the real-time count of misses for certain bet categories and displays it on the screen! I learned about this service from a video stream by a blogger who was testing various roulette strategies. Typically, these strategies led to losses in the long run because there's no Holy Grail for prolonged play at a single table. But I learned this from watching those videos. And I can provide a link to that blogger.
So, he talked about this awesome service. I started using this service, and it truly helped. For almost three years, it helped me win. However, there was always something missing. I understood that just the count of non-appearances wasn't enough. I contacted developers to consider my ideas, but they seemed content with what they had. Okay, I continued to use what was available.
A little over a week ago, I stumbled upon a video about a new service on YouTube that does what the first service does, and much more. I've described my experience with this service in another post. It amazed me. And now I've switched to it. Today, my weekly subscription ended, and I don't plan to renew it for now since I've gone on vacation by the sea. But later, when I return, I'll get back to this service and continue working with it.
Who knows, maybe by working with this service, I'll realize again that something is missing. Or something new will appear.
I can provide links to both services if necessary. And other, which didn't mention. I can write reviews about different services if it helps the community. I believe the goal in any community is to help each other. And that's what I'm trying to do, sharing my experience and expertise.
I simply want to tell people that there's no Holy Grail and it's impossible to constantly win sitting at a single table. There's no magic strategy. However, you can win occasionally at different tables using tools available on the market. I call it the tactic of short, swift raids. And it gives very good results.
I don't understand what casino rule violation you're referring to. I've read the rules of the online casinos where I play, and the restrictions were mostly about having multiple accounts or using software to place bets for the player. So, as far as I'm concerned, there's no violation on my part when using third-party software that somehow collects information and calculates statistics for players to analyze. I don't know if these services violate any online casino rules, but that seems to be a matter between the casino and the service, not between the player and the casino.
In general, I'm ready to be helpful and share a lot since I've researched a lot about this topic.
Take a look at the screenshots: they show my journey, from handwritten data in a notebook to working with modern services that automate it all (unfortunately, I don't have the ability to attach more than 5 images to show the entire history of my journey. I have way more than 5).
I'm always happy to answer any questions on this topic. If needed, I can provide my email for contact.
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We aim to provide the community with proven facts - this is one of those. Keeping players informed means keeping them safe. This is our ultimate goal.
To me, you sound like you're promoting.
Speaking of which, may I remind you I deleted the link you posted on the subject leading to the advert?
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Well, this is a bit rude. 🙁 I am not promoting; I'm sharing my experience like any other person here does.
You deleted a link to a YouTube video, which I believe had no harm. And as I mentioned before, I respect the community rules. If you find that the link appears suspicious to the community members, it makes sense.
I see people here looking for answers, and I provide them with information if I know the answer. But as I see it, it would be dishonest if I give only one part of the answer, keeping another part of it for myself only.
Your team is doing a great job, and I appreciate and admire it. However, for the sake of completeness, you still lack some information: either you don't know it or deliberately ignore it. The internet is full of scammers around the casino topic, but apart from scammers, there are genuinely effective tools that assist players. Perhaps you should delve deeper into this aspect to inform users about it. For instance, I know of a streamer's channel and can provide a link, which offers to pay 5000 euros to "learn how to always win at roulette." His broadcast is essentially a compilation of haphazard gameplay recordings and his selfies, where he talks about teaching how to win and offers to buy a set of 5000 euro worth DVD discs. People fall for this scam, unfortunately. 🙁 This is just one example, and I've encountered dozens of such individuals. It might be worth considering creating a new section where both scammers in the "roulette gaming education" field and genuine services that operate honestly could be listed.
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Hello,
The link led to a page offering paid services - this is where my suspicion came from.
Additionally, you posted that you paid for whatever it is, and it also offers 100% winning schemes. Well, sounds like a dangerous practice to me.
"And I paid. Their menu is quite diverse: game bots (not effective, human factor matters!), calculators where you manually input data while watching the game (they do help, but are not very user-friendly), 100% winning bet schemes, progressive betting systems, and more."
It is my job to remind all players to avoid scams and always act within fair casino rules to avoid unnecessary risk. This is all I intend to add.
I would not say I'm rude - I'm cautious. 🙂
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Hello,
The link led to a page offering paid services - this is where my suspicion came from.
Additionally, you posted that you paid for whatever it is, and it also offers 100% winning schemes. Well, sounds like a dangerous practice to me.
"And I paid. Their menu is quite diverse: game bots (not effective, human factor matters!), calculators where you manually input data while watching the game (they do help, but are not very user-friendly), 100% winning bet schemes, progressive betting systems, and more."
It is my job to remind all players to avoid scams and always act within fair casino rules to avoid unnecessary risk. This is all I intend to add.
I would not say I'm rude - I'm cautious. 🙂
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Oh my goodness. I mentioned that I paid scammers and explored everything I came across on the internet in an attempt to find any valuable tools. I shared my own past experiences, detailing both the negative and positive aspects of my research efforts. You TRUNCATED the quote; in its original form, it reads: "You know, the internet is full of those willing to help you for a price, promising any result if you have enough money to pay. And I paid." This relates to the significant amount of money I wasted on individuals who offered supposedly foolproof solutions. Do you truly not comprehend that? 😳
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No need to call a god. I did not comprehend that - because I know the internet is full of those willing to help you for a price, promising any result if you have enough money to pay.
That's all.
Again, I ask you kindly, politely, and joyfully to keep up with my replies in other threads.
