Fick nu detta av incrbleskins som verkar gå igenom Worldline. Tips på vad jag kan svara dom?
Hi,
Thank you for contacting us!
Regarding chargeback requests, we suggest to contact your bank to initiate the chargeback process as we need to receive the request directly from your bank to process any chargebacks.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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https://incredibleskins.com/ ?
They havent even replied to me, just getting ignored 😅
Eles também não me respondem quando vou diretamente ao site acima, mas parecem ter uma conexão com a Worldline e foi para lá que enviei um e-mail. Mas como você pode ver, eles querem que eu conecte o banco, então não sei como proceder agora.
Iniciei uma reclamação deles na semana passada por meio do banco. Veremos como vai.
Just wanted to add to the conversation.. I have been following this thread and currently contacting various merchant names to request refunds, only one response so far and no refunds yet.
I tried reaching out to one of the casinos involved (maximum.casino) which appears to be part of a larger group including MISTER X CASINO, PYRAMID SPINS, MAGIC REELS, FANCY REELS, WG CASINO, WIN DIGGERS, VULKAN CASINO, TROPIC SLOTS, KABOOM SLOTS, VERYWELL CASINO, CHILLI REELS, MILKY WINS, FRUITY CHANCE, CAPTAIN MARLIN and more.
They admit to miscoding practice to avoid any blocks by the banks and claim to be self regulated European casinos but do not allow GDPR requests and have no type of license for operating.
I did some research into one of the sticky processors 'CSCANNERR' or 'DOTASCANNER' which seems to have 2x websites DOTASCANNER.COM and DOTASCANNER.NET and are registered with UK company house to someone named YELENA GOLUBEVA.. this person also goes under JELENA and has lots of different shell companies registered around the world. DOTASCANNER.NET is registered in Cyprus and has links to another person named ELENI PAPAPAVLOU and some research finds her named in court documents surrounding fraudulent transactions and money laundering (which we have all suspected anyway).. relating back to Russia to the tune of 100s of millions. see: https://www.lawlesslatvia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Latvian-Complaint-signed-FULL-2.pdf
I researched some more on the casino websites and domains to see who owns these and found a complaint regarding use of domain names and infringement, which also has a long list of Russian federation linked inidividuals (if you search up the names listed as well as those linked to DOTASCANNER, most are of Russian descent, some living in Latvia/Cyprus and you will find them as directors of 100s and 100s of different random shell companies that are processing these transactions and laundering the money).
The casino itself flat out refuses any refunds but openly admits to circumventing VISA/MASTERCARD rules. Just thinking what is the best step in reporting these companies to help get them shut down? I have raised complaints with the domain hosts for laundering money linking to Russian federation.
I know some of the processors are real companies that are cooperating with refunding transactions, but most are not and you are best doing what others have said r.e. chargeback the supposed 'items' via your bank (they won't even respond and you WILL win) most banks have online forms you can fill in to do it.
Qual banco você tem? Você estava ciente de que isso se aplica a depósitos que você fez, etc.?
Eu tenho o mesmo banco que você.
O que você disse ao banco, que ia jogar em um cassino, mas não recebeu o depósito ou o que disse além de que era um cassino?
Eu mesmo fiz a transação com cartão, então é bom que você saiba o que dizer.
Por favor, mantenha-nos atualizados sobre como vai. Há quanto tempo você fará estornos?
Acho que você pode presumir que todos os cassinos com licença fora da Suécia são ilegítimos. Provavelmente a maioria dos licenciados suecos também.
Any proper casino would show the casino name in the statement.
And any card transaction if it had been processed with the correct gambling MCC 7995 would have been blocked by your bank. So all the transactions are in a way not legit.
But figuring out which casino used which shell company to process your payment will probably be really hard.
Just wanted to add to the conversation.. I have been following this thread and currently contacting various merchant names to request refunds, only one response so far and no refunds yet.
I tried reaching out to one of the casinos involved (maximum.casino) which appears to be part of a larger group including MISTER X CASINO, PYRAMID SPINS, MAGIC REELS, FANCY REELS, WG CASINO, WIN DIGGERS, VULKAN CASINO, TROPIC SLOTS, KABOOM SLOTS, VERYWELL CASINO, CHILLI REELS, MILKY WINS, FRUITY CHANCE, CAPTAIN MARLIN and more.
They admit to miscoding practice to avoid any blocks by the banks and claim to be self regulated European casinos but do not allow GDPR requests and have no type of license for operating.
I did some research into one of the sticky processors 'CSCANNERR' or 'DOTASCANNER' which seems to have 2x websites DOTASCANNER.COM and DOTASCANNER.NET and are registered with UK company house to someone named YELENA GOLUBEVA.. this person also goes under JELENA and has lots of different shell companies registered around the world. DOTASCANNER.NET is registered in Cyprus and has links to another person named ELENI PAPAPAVLOU and some research finds her named in court documents surrounding fraudulent transactions and money laundering (which we have all suspected anyway).. relating back to Russia to the tune of 100s of millions. see: https://www.lawlesslatvia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Latvian-Complaint-signed-FULL-2.pdf
I researched some more on the casino websites and domains to see who owns these and found a complaint regarding use of domain names and infringement, which also has a long list of Russian federation linked inidividuals (if you search up the names listed as well as those linked to DOTASCANNER, most are of Russian descent, some living in Latvia/Cyprus and you will find them as directors of 100s and 100s of different random shell companies that are processing these transactions and laundering the money).
The casino itself flat out refuses any refunds but openly admits to circumventing VISA/MASTERCARD rules. Just thinking what is the best step in reporting these companies to help get them shut down? I have raised complaints with the domain hosts for laundering money linking to Russian federation.
I know some of the processors are real companies that are cooperating with refunding transactions, but most are not and you are best doing what others have said r.e. chargeback the supposed 'items' via your bank (they won't even respond and you WILL win) most banks have online forms you can fill in to do it.
I don't really know if there is anything to do to be honest.
I tried to write something together and sent it to some newspaper tip lines, for something that they should investigate and dig into, but who knows.
Maybe some UK newspaper would be more interested.
Someone needs to put some pressure on Visa/Mastercard, but it's very hard hard for a lone consumer to do that unfortunately.
I filed a complaint with visa regarding the illegal companies….. I have also filed a complaint with the Canadian government around payop the open banking system that take payment for some of these casinos. In the UK when I filed a complaint they said well did you receive the money on the website and I said "yes" they then proceeded to say it was ok for them to operate under a different name, I argued they are breaching Mis coding rules and the bank just basically said - what do you want us to do 🤷♀️
Não sabemos para onde vai o dinheiro. Pode ser dinheiro que financie o terrorismo, o tráfico e tudo o mais que seja criminoso. Também vou falar com o banco, não é certo que o casino conecte você com várias empresas duvidosas na África. Você insere os números do seu cartão no cassino acreditando que é neles que você deposita dinheiro, mas não é. Você envia dinheiro para a África e se torna parte da lavagem de dinheiro deles
I totally agree with you Gez I honestly do it abissmal what they are doing. They should be held accountable. I think casinos should have to go through rigorous checks before being allowed to have a license that way this mess of a money laundering businesses wouldn’t exist and none of us would be harmed
Just the way of the world, unfortunately.
However, it seems that my card, hopefully my person and some of the details used for the payments, might now be blocked here and there. And it will also make me not play anymore on any of these casinos in the future. Knowing you are sponsoring whatever criminals, makes it less interesting for me to make a deposit now. I'll probably will play some at the state online casino here in Sweden, but not any of the other ones licensed in Sweden, as I don't know enough about who's behind them.
I have a huge amount, over 50k euro, deposited at Altpay between April 202-September 2023. Now I got a reply from them:
"Unfortunately, we are unable to take the matter any further due to the age of the transactions in question—being beyond the 180-day limit. This limitation is in line with our company’s policies, which align with standard financial practices designed to ensure transaction finality after a certain period."
Can PLEASY any of my UK friends here advise on what to do next? What to write/threathen with? Altpay seems to be one of the more legitimate UK registered companies. Anyone that has taken help from a lawyer/would it be any Idea? Any help that leads to refund will be highly rewarded.
Betty I posted the other day about this - they are regulated by the financial conduct authority- you can call them - google them
And What is the actual crime they commit by mislabelling the codes?
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