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What is illegal. Can you explain? I'm curious and probably many more.

there is no law that says you can't defame companies.

the only thing that could have been illegal here is if we started sharing names of people who work at companies etc.. we have questioned their way of processing transactions. These methods they use are strictly prohibited. Then if you now post something about a company that does it the way it should be done, for example zimpler, trustly and these open banking, then it's a completely different matter.

Vad är det som är illegalt. Kan du förklara? Jag är nyfiken och säkert många fler.

det finns ingen lag som säger att du inte får förtala företag.

det enda som hade kunnat vara illegalt här är om vi började dela namn på personer som jobbar på företag osv.. vi har ifrågasatt deras sätt att processa transaktioner. Dessa metoder dom använder är strikt förbjudna. Sen om du nu la upp något om just ett företag som sköter det som man ska göra, dom tex zimpler,trustly och dessa open banking då är det en helt annan sak.

Then e kinta could start again🤣

Då e kinta kunte igång igen🤣

Basically admitting on here to gambling but then claiming to not receive goods is an illegal offence. They are saying that we are capitalising on both playing with the funds and then getting money back. Also by us getting other people involved it makes it more serious as it’s a fraudulent scheme.

this is what they are telling me. I perfectly understand people wanting to keep their posts on here but it’s not worth it for me to do so receiving the threat.

Hello everyone,

I wanted to address the recent post claiming that a user received a legal threat from a individual user and suggesting that we remove our discussions about refund requests. While it’s important to take any potential legal matters seriously, there are a few points that need clarification:

• Lack of Evidence: The user has not provided any concrete evidence of the legal letter they claim to have received. Without seeing the actual document, it’s difficult to assess the validity of the claim.

• No Specifics Provided: The post mentions that what we are doing is "actually illegal" but does not specify what exact actions or discussions are considered illegal. For us to take appropriate steps, we need clear information on what legal grounds are being cited.

• Public Discussions and Consumer Rights: Discussing consumer experiences, including issues with payments and potential refunds, is a crucial aspect of consumer protection and transparency. We have the right to seek advice and share our experiences with these companies, especially if we believe there have been unethical practices.

I did post the email but it was removed!!!

Of course they do. People on here are contact Noda to try and get refunds from Santeda!! They shouldn’t be contacting Noda.

Yes, those who have done this will be charged with fraud. Myself and the majority of this forum acted in accordance with the law and announced that

1. the money went to the casino
2. manipulation of the merchant code enabled the deposit, if the merchant code had not been manipulated, the transaction would never have occurred.
3. manipulation of merchant code is against the law
4. MCC codes are part of a regulatory system that ensures that payment transactions are handled appropriately and ethically. Using the wrong code is a breach of contract.

1. **Breach of contract:** Using the wrong MCC code can result in breach of contract with your payment processor and credit card companies, which can result in fines or even account closure.

2. **Penalties:** Credit card companies and payment processors may impose a penalty on merchants who fraudulently use the wrong MCC code.

3. **Loss of Trust:** Using the wrong code can undermine the trust between the merchant and their payment processor.

In summary, a merchant should not change their MCC code themselves, instead they should work with their payment processor and credit card companies to ensure that their business is correctly classified.

Kyllä ne jotka ovat tehneet näin täyttää petos syytteen. Itse ja suurin osa tältä foorumilta toimivat lakia noudattaen ja ilmoittivat että

1. raha meni kasinolle
2. kauppiaskoodin manipulointi mahdollisti talletuksen jos kauppiaskoodia ei olisi manipuloitu tapahtumaa ei olisi koskaan syntynyt.
3. kauppiaskoodin manipulointi on lainvastaista
4.  MCC-koodit ovat osa sääntelyjärjestelmää, joka varmistaa, että maksutapahtumat käsitellään asianmukaisesti ja eettisesti. Väärän koodin käyttö on sopimusrikos.

1. **Sopimusrikkomukset:** Väärän MCC-koodin käyttö voi johtaa sopimusrikkomuksiin maksuprosessorin ja luottokorttiyhtiöiden kanssa, mikä voi johtaa sakkoihin tai jopa tilin sulkemiseen.

2. **Sanktiot:** Luottokorttiyhtiöt ja maksuprosessorit voivat asettaa sanktiota kauppiaille, jotka käyttävät väärää MCC-koodia vilpillisesti.

3. **Luottamuksen Menetys:** Väärän koodin käyttö voi heikentää luottamusta kauppiaan ja heidän maksuprosessorinsa välillä.

Yhteenvetona, kauppias ei saa muuttaa MCC-koodiaan itse, vaan heidän tulee toimia yhteistyössä maksuprosessorinsa ja luottokorttiyhtiöiden kanssa varmistaakseen, että heidän liiketoimintansa on oikein luokiteltu.

So just leave the thread if you are that bothered after receiving scaremongering contact.

You are now attempting to shut down a forum thread that has and is continuing to highlight the illegal/criminal tactics that these organised crime gangs behind these fake/scam websites are using.

I’m not surprised they are trying to get this thread removed as can’t believe it’s taken them so long. Clearly it’s now hitting them financially so they have to do something.

Iv tried leaving the thread. Iv even asked casino.guru to disable my account. Nothing happens!! I wish you all well but please think carefully about what you are doing

Casino guru will close down anyone’s account that requests it.

🤡

C'mon man... from what I understand, the letter said something like this:

USERS have been trying to manipulate transactions information

The claims made about manipulating transaction information are vague and lack concrete evidence. The letter supposedly states that users are "trying to manipulate transaction information," but there is no detailed explanation or legal citation provided.

Without seeing the specific legal grounds or evidence they are basing their threats on, it’s challenging to take these claims seriously. Legal threats without clear evidence and proper legal context are often tactics to silence consumer complaints.

Stop trashing the thread please, you've posted 100 times now.

You should be banned for spamming.

Sluta förpesta tråden tack, du har skrivit 100 gånger nu.

Du borde bli avstängd för spam.

Could you send one of us here on the forum privately these files so we can see what is illegal in our operations.

Voisitko lähettää jollekkin meistä täällä foorumilla olevista yksityisesti nämä tiedostot jotta voisimme katsoa mikä toiminnassamme on laitonta.

Hi, we took the position that every player has freedom of speech and expression and as long as it is not against our rules, there was basically no reason to delete this thread. It will remain that way and from our point of view we basically let the players communicate their problems. 

In addition, to tell you the truth, we have also contacted 2 casinos who have written to us about this thread, but to date we have not heard back from them, so we are still waiting for an update from them. 

We are not in a position to deal with questions about what is legal and illegal, because we are not lawyers, so I would leave this area to the people who handle it. 

Therefore, this is what I would add to it and of course everyone has the opportunity to evaluate whether and what he/she wants to write here.