Pergunta sobre sites de jogos de azar com licença de Curaçao que usam código de categoria de comerciante incorreto (página 91)

You don't need to worry. An investigation is always conducted. Such an investigation is necessary. It is these investigations that lead authorities and banks to take action. An investigation does not mean that you are a suspect; it is about understanding what happened and how it happened. 

Remember that we are suffering from gambling addiction, and these gambling companies exploit us because of it. They allow us to deposit money, but when it comes to withdrawals, they delay the process, citing minor rule violations. They demand an array of documents, all to exploit the customer's addiction and wait until the money is gambled away, only to then offer the customer a bonus to deposit even more money.

These casinos claim to offer a service. However, a service is not just letting customers waste their money on a slot machine. A service from a gambling company should include safe gambling practices, secure payments, and responsibility towards the customer's well-being, including their financial situation. 

I find it wonderful that the banks are finally taking notice. I encourage everyone to highlight these issues.

same explanation as in previous messages I've seen being recommended in the thread! I mentioned that the transactions are illegal as it contains a merchant code that also bypasses blocks set on cards in relation to gambling transactions and I have not received any service from them.. has anyone else experienced this?? I need HELP!

I'm waiting for my bank to contact me PATIENTLY...I'm thinking of doing it myself before they do. As long as you've been honest, you shouldn't be worried. Can't access your bank account now? And have you sent files and that you contact the companies

Jag väntar på min bank ska kontakta mig TÅLMODIGT…jag funderar på att göra det själv innan dom gör det. Sålänge du har varit ärlig så ska du inte va orolig. Kommer du inte åt ditt bankkonto nu eller? Och har du skickat med filer och att du kontaktar företagen

The money that we have received from the casino, they can ask us to return it, just as we are asking for money for a service that we have not consumed, apart from the fact that they can report us for attempted fraud..

I hope that no one is so sick that they make a chargeback from a casino that has still paid out the winnings.

Jag hoppas ju att ingen är så sjuk att man gör en chargeback ifrån ett casino som ändå har betalt ut vinsterna.

Well, saying that you havent received any service from them is not true If you have received the deposit into your casino account. They have acted as a payment processor/payment gateway to the casino. That is not illegal per se. So if the casino has received your payment, you have received their (the payment gateways) service. And by saying otherwise to your bank, you are attempting fraud (försök till bedrägeri).

Misclassification of MCC codes are, as I understand it, not illegal either. Yes it is against Mastercard and VISAs policies and terms, and can lead to suspension and fees imposed by VISA/Mastercard to the merchant. It is also in general skechy and if it would be thorougfully invested it often has connection to money laundering (which is illegal). But I doubt misclassification of MCC codes is an actual crime.

No, but doing so in order to bypass laws prohibiting illegal online gambling is illegal.

He probably means that he has not bought goods from them. And it's true.

Han mena nog att han inte har köpt varor ifrån dom. Och det är ju sant.

Yes, it is illegal to operate as a 3rd party unless the main store's name is connected directly before or after the 3rd party

Jo det är illegalt att verka som 3part om inte huvudbutikens namn står i anslutning direkt före eller efter 3part

So there is nothing there that can excuse what they have done. If that were the case, the merchant code for games would not have been blocked

Altså där finns ingenting som kan ursäkta det dom har gjort. Om så vore fallet så skulle inte merchant koden för spel varit blockerad

Yes -in the country of jurisdiction. But If the casino is not licensed in that country, it would be very hard to charge them with anything. Especially since 99,9% of all unlicensed casinos T&Cs state that it is the players responsibility to conduct to any local laws and regulations prohibiting gambling.

no matter how you twist and turn it, it still looks like money laundering through the majority of these companies, maybe not all, but a large part.

Although that is not what you say when you choose to make a card complaint for the reason that you have not "received any goods/services". What you are saying is that you have not received the product or service you bought. Which unfortunately you have, if you have received the casino deposit.

Fast det är inte det som man säger när man väljer att göra en kortreklamationen av anledningen att man inte har "received any goods/services". Det man säger är att man inte mottagit den vara eller tjänst man köpt. Vilket man tyvärr har, om man mottagit casinoinsättningen.

i have spoken with a solicitor on this.

Merchant Codes and Misrepresentation: The practice of using incorrect merchant codes to bypass blocks for gambling can be considered fraudulent or deceptive. This misrepresentation could violate both local laws and international regulations related to financial transactions and consumer protection.

You have to be honest with your bank, regardless how embarrassing it is, banks generally do not tolerate fraudulent practices. If you can demonstrate that the transactions were misrepresented, you may have a chance to recover your money through a chargeback process.

if you were made aware that you will be paying third parties which has incorrect codes, then you were privy to that information and still decided to conduct transactions with that risk, if you wasn’t made aware - then they’ve misrepresented it.

She at the bank said. If not all options are included, you can explain it in a pdf file instead

Hon på banken sa. Om inte alla alternativ finns med så kan man förklara det i en pdf fil istället

Then you don't buy a service "legal services in Africa" but it is a casino deposit. It doesn't go hand in hand hehehe

Sen så köper man inte en tjänst "legal services i Afrika" men det är en casinoinsättnig. Det går inte hand i hand hehehe

Thank you for that clarification.

I see that you are from UK -can you please explain what "gambling blocks" refers too, formally? In Sweden we are not able to block ourselves via our Banks against gambling transactions, why I wonder if it would be considered the same here. It either isnt illegal to play at unlicensed casinos.

Can you refer to which law/section they are breaking? That would be great if you are right.

Kan du referera till vilken lag/paragraf som de bryter mot? Det skulle vara toppen om du har rätt.

In the end, at least in my case, I have been given the OK to carry out these transactions.

And what they are trying to do is a fraud because we have received that money from the casino. I am not on one side or the other but I am afraid that the casino will make me return the money that I have received from them just as I ask the merchant to return it to me.

Are you afraid ?

Är du rädd ?