same explanation as in previous messages I've seen being recommended in the thread! I mentioned that the transactions are illegal as it contains a merchant code that also bypasses blocks set on cards in relation to gambling transactions and I have not received any service from them.. has anyone else experienced this?? I need HELP!
Estou esperando meu banco entrar em contato comigo PACIENTEMENTE...Estou pensando em fazer isso sozinho antes que eles o façam. Contanto que você tenha sido honesto, não deveria se preocupar. Não consegue acessar sua conta bancária agora? E você enviou arquivos e entrou em contato com as empresas
The money that we have received from the casino, they can ask us to return it, just as we are asking for money for a service that we have not consumed, apart from the fact that they can report us for attempted fraud..
Espero que ninguém fique tão doente a ponto de fazer um estorno de um cassino que ainda pagou os ganhos.
Well, saying that you havent received any service from them is not true If you have received the deposit into your casino account. They have acted as a payment processor/payment gateway to the casino. That is not illegal per se. So if the casino has received your payment, you have received their (the payment gateways) service. And by saying otherwise to your bank, you are attempting fraud (försök till bedrägeri).
Misclassification of MCC codes are, as I understand it, not illegal either. Yes it is against Mastercard and VISAs policies and terms, and can lead to suspension and fees imposed by VISA/Mastercard to the merchant. It is also in general skechy and if it would be thorougfully invested it often has connection to money laundering (which is illegal). But I doubt misclassification of MCC codes is an actual crime.
Well, saying that you havent received any service from them is not true If you have received the deposit into your casino account. They have acted as a payment processor/payment gateway to the casino. That is not illegal per se. So if the casino has received your payment, you have received their (the payment gateways) service. And by saying otherwise to your bank, you are attempting fraud (försök till bedrägeri).
Misclassification of MCC codes are, as I understand it, not illegal either. Yes it is against Mastercard and VISAs policies and terms, and can lead to suspension and fees imposed by VISA/Mastercard to the merchant. It is also in general skechy and if it would be thorougfully invested it often has connection to money laundering (which is illegal). But I doubt misclassification of MCC codes is an actual crime.
No, but doing so in order to bypass laws prohibiting illegal online gambling is illegal.
Ele provavelmente quer dizer que não comprou produtos deles. E é verdade.
Well, saying that you havent received any service from them is not true If you have received the deposit into your casino account. They have acted as a payment processor/payment gateway to the casino. That is not illegal per se. So if the casino has received your payment, you have received their (the payment gateways) service. And by saying otherwise to your bank, you are attempting fraud (försök till bedrägeri).
Misclassification of MCC codes are, as I understand it, not illegal either. Yes it is against Mastercard and VISAs policies and terms, and can lead to suspension and fees imposed by VISA/Mastercard to the merchant. It is also in general skechy and if it would be thorougfully invested it often has connection to money laundering (which is illegal). But I doubt misclassification of MCC codes is an actual crime.
Sim, é ilegal operar como terceiro, a menos que o nome da loja principal esteja conectado diretamente antes ou depois do terceiro
Portanto, não há nada ali que possa desculpar o que eles fizeram. Se fosse esse o caso, o código do comerciante dos jogos não teria sido bloqueado
Yes -in the country of jurisdiction. But If the casino is not licensed in that country, it would be very hard to charge them with anything. Especially since 99,9% of all unlicensed casinos T&Cs state that it is the players responsibility to conduct to any local laws and regulations prohibiting gambling.
no matter how you twist and turn it, it still looks like money laundering through the majority of these companies, maybe not all, but a large part.
Embora não seja isso que se diz quando opta por fazer uma reclamação de cartão pelo motivo de não ter "recebido quaisquer bens/serviços". O que você está dizendo é que não recebeu o produto ou serviço que comprou. O que infelizmente você fez, se recebeu o depósito do cassino.
Ela no banco disse. Se nem todas as opções estiverem incluídas, você pode explicar isso em um arquivo pdf
Então você não compra um serviço "serviços jurídicos na África", mas é um depósito de cassino. Não anda de mãos dadas hehehe
Thank you for that clarification.
I see that you are from UK -can you please explain what "gambling blocks" refers too, formally? In Sweden we are not able to block ourselves via our Banks against gambling transactions, why I wonder if it would be considered the same here. It either isnt illegal to play at unlicensed casinos.
Você pode se referir a qual lei/seção eles estão violando? Isso seria ótimo se você estiver certo.
In the end, at least in my case, I have been given the OK to carry out these transactions.
And what they are trying to do is a fraud because we have received that money from the casino. I am not on one side or the other but I am afraid that the casino will make me return the money that I have received from them just as I ask the merchant to return it to me.
Você está com medo ?
I totally agree, and I am certain that 99% of these casinos are connected to all kind of criminal activity and money laundering. But keep in mind that financial criminality is something that all governments with numerous employed lawyers, financial experts etc. battle every day but even for them it is hard to get to these companies. So whatever you and me feel/think we cant just go to the bank and say "hey, these guys are money laundering scum bags and therefor I have the right to get my deposit backs". It doesnt work that way even of it would be fantastic if it would.
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